Comments on: Coffee and Wine http://www.hasblog.co.uk/coffee-and-wine Has Bean Coffee Blog Sat, 04 Feb 2012 22:14:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: simonbaptist http://www.hasblog.co.uk/coffee-and-wine/comment-page-1#comment-3808 simonbaptist Sat, 06 Mar 2010 19:21:57 +0000 http://www.hasblog.co.uk/?p=594#comment-3808 Interesting thread and conversation. I ended up here from jimseven's post on the subject. ACCESSIBILITY: I used to be into wine (even looked at vineyards in the South of France to buy) but soon after that I got into beer. What I love about beer over wine is that the price point (generally) provides me an aesthic access into so many different experiences. Similary, I believe this also applies for coffee. Interesting thread and conversation. I ended up here from jimseven’s post on the subject.

ACCESSIBILITY:
I used to be into wine (even looked at vineyards in the South of France to buy) but soon after that I got into beer. What I love about beer over wine is that the price point (generally) provides me an aesthic access into so many different experiences.

Similary, I believe this also applies for coffee.

]]> By: Glenn http://www.hasblog.co.uk/coffee-and-wine/comment-page-1#comment-1002 Glenn Sun, 18 Jan 2009 12:31:06 +0000 http://www.hasblog.co.uk/?p=594#comment-1002 There are elements of the wine, whisky and beer industries that can be cherry picked from and adapated or used as a baseline to develop a coffee tasting model. The Wine Tasting Chart is a good example of where the wine model has been used to great effect to develop a tool for use in the wider community. Wine and Whisky are perceived as snobbish and to an extent coffee is as well, but this is due to lack of education and the infancy of the coffee industry. In 2, 5 or 10 years time we will be in a much different state with greater understanding of coffee and the bean to cup process throughout the population. Now is our chance to make a difference and set a precedence... There are elements of the wine, whisky and beer industries that can be cherry picked from and adapated or used as a baseline to develop a coffee tasting model.

The Wine Tasting Chart is a good example of where the wine model has been used to great effect to develop a tool for use in the wider community.

Wine and Whisky are perceived as snobbish and to an extent coffee is as well, but this is due to lack of education and the infancy of the coffee industry.

In 2, 5 or 10 years time we will be in a much different state with greater understanding of coffee and the bean to cup process throughout the population.

Now is our chance to make a difference and set a precedence…

]]> By: lastcoyote http://www.hasblog.co.uk/coffee-and-wine/comment-page-1#comment-1001 lastcoyote Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:20:26 +0000 http://www.hasblog.co.uk/?p=594#comment-1001 talking of wine steve...have you had 'Ravenswood Lodi Old Vine Zinfandel?' mmm yummy. also for a fantastic french cahors region wine... 'chateau pineraie' is a must try. ..no snobbery here by the way :) talking of wine steve…have you had ‘Ravenswood Lodi Old Vine Zinfandel?’ mmm yummy.
also for a fantastic french cahors region wine… ‘chateau pineraie’ is a must try.
..no snobbery here by the way :)

]]> By: admin http://www.hasblog.co.uk/coffee-and-wine/comment-page-1#comment-1000 admin Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:23:44 +0000 http://www.hasblog.co.uk/?p=594#comment-1000 Claus I find the idea of the Beer and the whisky model and the wine model all attractive or at least parts of them. Cherry picking from what we like and need is a great idea. I hadn't really thought about beer before but that's a great call. And one thing is for sure that the snobbery is not welcome at all, something that must not be allowed to sneak into the market place. Good points Claus

I find the idea of the Beer and the whisky model and the wine model all attractive or at least parts of them. Cherry picking from what we like and need is a great idea. I hadn’t really thought about beer before but that’s a great call.

And one thing is for sure that the snobbery is not welcome at all, something that must not be allowed to sneak into the market place.

Good points

]]> By: Claus Thøgersen http://www.hasblog.co.uk/coffee-and-wine/comment-page-1#comment-999 Claus Thøgersen Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:54:32 +0000 http://www.hasblog.co.uk/?p=594#comment-999 I see absolutely no reason to go for the wine comparison. First of all the wine market is still snobbish, it has gotten better or less worse but it is for me at least a serious turnoff for the whole thing. Yes there are sensible people in the wine business, but too many people are still of the opinion that you can only drink certain wines, often the most pricy ones, and the ones haled by a few wine writers. In the serious coffee world it is still allowed and often encouraged that you take your own stand, in the homeroasting world obvious since we control the roast. If we need to go with other drinks why not beer? The beerworld has not yet gotten all the highpriced beers that the wine world has. Yes it is coming mostly pushed by the American and a few European actually a few Danish breweries, but I hope it can be kept to a minimum. Coffee and beer shares important tastes, like chocolate and bitterness, at least bitterness as I know Wine is seldom and found not desirable. Claus incouraged I see absolutely no reason to go for the wine comparison. First of all the wine market is still snobbish, it has gotten better or less worse but it is for me at least a serious turnoff for the whole thing. Yes there are sensible people in the wine business, but too many people are still of the opinion that you can only drink certain wines, often the most pricy ones, and the ones haled by a few wine writers. In the serious coffee world it is still allowed and often encouraged that you take your own stand, in the homeroasting world obvious since we control the roast.

If we need to go with other drinks why not beer? The beerworld has not yet gotten all the highpriced beers that the wine world has. Yes it is coming mostly pushed by the American and a few European actually a few Danish breweries, but I hope it can be kept to a minimum.
Coffee and beer shares important tastes, like chocolate and bitterness, at least bitterness as I know Wine is seldom and found not desirable.

Claus

incouraged

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]]> By: admin http://www.hasblog.co.uk/coffee-and-wine/comment-page-1#comment-997 admin Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:50:12 +0000 http://www.hasblog.co.uk/?p=594#comment-997 Ahmen Mark, I too was a member of the Malt Whisky society (my membership lapsed) but I still enjoy a dram at the end of the night. I love the tastings notes from the Society, and agree there is a lot of cross over. In my Mug/Glass, I like that idea a lot I could do one every night ;) Ahmen Mark, I too was a member of the Malt Whisky society (my membership lapsed) but I still enjoy a dram at the end of the night.

I love the tastings notes from the Society, and agree there is a lot of cross over.

In my Mug/Glass, I like that idea a lot I could do one every night ;)

]]> By: Mark Goldie http://www.hasblog.co.uk/coffee-and-wine/comment-page-1#comment-996 Mark Goldie Thu, 15 Jan 2009 23:17:39 +0000 http://www.hasblog.co.uk/?p=594#comment-996 Interesting post Steve. Taking the topic slightly sideways, as a relative newcomer to the world of quality coffee, and also being a member of the Scotch Malt Whisky Society, I can see a lot of overlap between the two. Certainly, I find them extremely complimentary, and often enjoy a dram & a cup alongside one another. Not only that, but the descriptive references in tasting notes for whisky and coffee are equally fun to play with. Essentially, I find myself enjoying the world of coffee for the same reasons I enjoy great whiskies. One problem I see though is that the same coffee bean can result in a very different taste for any two people due to roasting/brewing differences, and perhaps that could limit coffee appreciation at that level to the more geeky/technical type person, whereas a certain bottling of single malt should be comparable to the last drop. I suspect it's also simply the case that most people, probably without knowing it, are just accustomed to drinking bad coffee (I know I was!). Anyway, how about an "In My Mug" whisky/coffee episode? :-) Interesting post Steve. Taking the topic slightly sideways, as a relative newcomer to the world of quality coffee, and also being a member of the Scotch Malt Whisky Society, I can see a lot of overlap between the two. Certainly, I find them extremely complimentary, and often enjoy a dram & a cup alongside one another. Not only that, but the descriptive references in tasting notes for whisky and coffee are equally fun to play with. Essentially, I find myself enjoying the world of coffee for the same reasons I enjoy great whiskies.

One problem I see though is that the same coffee bean can result in a very different taste for any two people due to roasting/brewing differences, and perhaps that could limit coffee appreciation at that level to the more geeky/technical type person, whereas a certain bottling of single malt should be comparable to the last drop. I suspect it’s also simply the case that most people, probably without knowing it, are just accustomed to drinking bad coffee (I know I was!).

Anyway, how about an “In My Mug” whisky/coffee episode? :-)

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